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    • CommentAuthormartincohen
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007 edited
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    Download

    Download Intype 0.2.1.328

    Warnings & Announces

    • WARNING! Backup your changed files in bundles and themes folders and Uninstall previous release

    Features

    • Right-Click Popup Menu
    • Horizontal Scrollbar
    • Horizontal Scrolling with Ctrl+Alt+Wheel and Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right
    • Select Lines now rounds selection to lines if selection is active. If selection is already rounded, next line is selected
    • Select Indent Level selects lines with the same level (or empty lines). Empty lines at top and bottom of the selection are cropped.
    • Select Paragraph selects sequence of non-empty lines above and below caret
    • Full Path in Title
    • Snippets with empty scope are launched in any scopes, but with lowest priority (good for general snippets like lorem_ipsum.itSnippet)
    • Indentation Auto-detection also with support for Emacs style (see below)

    Indentation Auto-Detection Plugin Description (codename metacrawler)

    Indentation Auto-Detector consists of two detecting mechanisms: examining leading whitespace for lines in document and Emacs-style meta info. Detector is able to choose the best indentation values from both mechanisms.

    Soft/Hard tabs detector:

    • Detecting soft/hard tabs mode by leading whitespace on the lines
    • Is able to detect size of soft tabs. Hard tabs size cannot be detected and defaults to user preferences.

    Emacs-style detector:

    • Detects soft/hard tabs ands it’s size by emacs-style meta information embedded to document
    • Supported properties are:
      • indent-tabs-mode: nil to set soft tabs (spaces), or
      • indent-tabs-mode: t to set hard tabs (tab characters)
      • tab-width-value: value to set size of the identation

    Examples for Emacs-style detector:
    // -*- indent-tabs-mode:t; tab-width:4 -*-
    or
    // -*- indent-tabs-mode:nil; tab-width:4 -*-

    Bug Fixes

    Critical GDI leak fixed
    Editing Indenting with soft tabs (spaces) is now working properly
    Rendering Changed rendering process, updated performance
    Editing No line length limit (EXPERIMENTAL)
    Cosmetic Removed square character from status bar
    Rendering Caret positioning and hiding now works as expected
    Cosmetic Charset drop-down now checks UTF-8 Plain properly
    Performance Major rendering, scrolling and caret movement performance upgrade
    Rendering Status bar now updates section widths properly
    Snippets Fixed bug with disabling nested placeholders
    Files Open/Save As file dialogs are now defaults to current doc’s folder
    Files Creating a new snippet with Intype now does not fail to save
    Critical Modifying preferences.itConfig now does not cause deadlock
    Files Intype initialization now sets defaults from preferences.itConfig properly
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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007 edited
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    whoo!

    Whats the new Plugins folder for?

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    The plugins folder now contains first plugin — metacrawler that is used for detecting auto-indentation as described in release notes.

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      CommentAuthoryarden
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
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    WOW looking great! thanks!

    • CommentAuthorVlad
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
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    Yahoo!

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      CommentAuthoryarden
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007 edited
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    the Crtl+Shift+P is used twice (bundels and select paragraph), is that a bug?
    and- the Horizontal Scrollbar is over showing on the doc (or just the line numbers)

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    yarden: a screenshot?

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    Ctrl+Shift+P is used for grammars, this will change in 0.2.2

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      CommentAuthoryarden
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
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    well, i guss i was worng about that…
    but, the horizontal scrollbar is not updated if i delete the text that is ‘horizontal bigger’ then the window-

    rep bug:
    1. write a long line (until the horizontal scrollbar has apeared)
    2. delete that line
    3. the horizontal scrollbar is still there even if there is no text

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    yarden: this is not a bug. Horizontal scrollbar would be too expensive feature when it will be reacting on deleting text (all lines has to be scanned to find next longest line). Therefore we decided to implement it the Scintilla-way, where horizontal scrollbar is only increasing. This method is making no extra overhead. However, we are planning to reimplement this in further versions.

    • CommentAuthorjbeduya
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007 edited
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    There is somehow a great improvement that it launches on Linux using wine, but all the text that I am typing is only displayed in a single line, sometimes in the bottom or in the top of the screen. But at least it launches now, previously it won't. I'm praying it will...

    If this will work on *nix based systems, this editor will be a serious hit.
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    jbeduya: For 0.2.2 we are refactoring many UI parts of Intype to be platform-independent so later it will be easier to move to other platforms. We have started with editing component, that will bring many new features. Wine is just a nice side-effect, but we will work on the compatibility as well.

    • CommentAuthorchainy
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2007
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    First let me say that i think this editor looks set to have a very promising future, i am very impressed well done to the developers. just cannot wait till the support for multiple files to be open in one instance is added, just a bit of a pain having windows open all over the place, hopefully solved in the very near future :-)
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    chainy: Yeah, that is what we are working on now.

    • CommentAuthorAlbertus
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2007
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    I’m happy to see this new release! Unfortunately Intype does not remember settings about soft tabs: I have to set “Use spaces” each time I open a file..

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    When you open a file, the detector is being used to detect indentation in the file you are opening. Stored settings are used only if you are creating a new file (Ctrl+N).

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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2007
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    Albertus: I’m happy to see this new release! Unfortunately Intype does not remember settings about soft tabs: I have to set “Use spaces” each time I open a file..

    You can just set the defaults in the preferences file. :) This issue is related to this

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    Nice! Well done on the new release! I was having some problems with the previous release becoming slower as the file-size increased, especially if there were a lot of indenting and one-character lines going on. This seems to have been improved in this new release, though, so it's still my prefered editor, simply because of the magnificent way it makes life simpler ;)
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    keep the good work. and tnx for suppressing the 'default to last file type used' features in the open dialog box.
    bug report: the 'recent file' list is not up to date. it 'forget' some files on his way (the most recent most of the time - WinXP SP2)
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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2007
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    semioticmonkey: bug report: the ‘recent file’ list is not up to date. it ‘forget’ some files on his way (the most recent most of the time – WinXP SP2)

    Already been highlighted in this thread ;)

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    oops! sorry.
    ..and tnx for the link :)
    • CommentAuthorshinuza
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
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    Wise stuff to create a drop down menu for the meta trigger in html mode ;-)
    But I've noticed that link trigger include a link stylesheet with "print" as a default "media" value.

    Keep up good work! It's really a pleasure to work with Intype!
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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2007
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    shinuza: Wise stuff to create a drop down menu for the meta trigger in html mode ;-)
    But I’ve noticed that link trigger include a link stylesheet with “print” as a default “media” value.

    Hello, welcome to the forums! :) I’m Josh, the guy who messed with the HTML bundle snippets.. :P

    Mm.. the dropdowns are automatic when you have more that one snippet with the same trigger. About the link snippet, I usually have “print” as the value in the “media” attribute, or omit it completely if its the page stylesheet. You can easily remove it by editing the link.itSnippet file :)

    • CommentAuthorshinuza
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
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    Hello, thanks for the welcoming ;-)

    In fact, I had a little problem while editing in HTML, when I called the snippet for head I had both head and meta coming, but it didn’t occur in XHTML mode.

    Btw it seems xhtml mode doesn’t work at all now (when selecting by the bottom menu), but it works with the keyboard shortcut.
    In fact I’ve three choices in the drowndrop menu, and the first one doesn’t work, it might be the same one in the bottom menu.

    (It’s not a fresh installation, maybe I should erase everything and try back)

    For the link snippet, I was mistaken sorry, you have a drop down menu, one includes screen as default media value, the other includes print. :-)

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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
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    Haha, well, the HTML and XHTML bundles have been merged. :P So there should only be one HTML.itBundle folder in the Bundles folder and no XHTML.itBundle folder.

    For the link snippet, no, you’re right :) I didn’t make one that has “screen” as the value for “media”, I just made one with “print” as the value… the reason is because “screen” is the default value, so if the stylesheet’s meant for screen display, you just omit the entire “media” attribute. :P

    • CommentAuthorshinuza
    • CommentTimeMar 29th 2007
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    Ok so :-)

    After I’ve installed, re-installed Intype, the double XHTML mode bug has has disappeared. So as the drop down menu for link snippet :-D

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    Hi,
    Ctrl+L gone away?
    or just was switched like Ctrl+P

    Thank's :D
    • CommentAuthorcapken
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
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    report bug:
    When I save a file, and just input the file name then chose the file type, after pressing the save button, the file in the folder does not have the file type postfix!
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      CommentAuthortstrokes
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2007
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    I’m not sure that this is really a bug. AFAIK it is this way in alot of editors (notepad++, scite). However it would be nice if it did.

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      CommentAuthor.Dani
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007 edited
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    Why is development so slow :(? I find myself completely dropping Intype cause of the long time between updates and the lack of functionality :/ I always say this, and I will say this again, look at E Text Editor. Thát is in my opinion your direct competitor. E appears to have 1 lead developer (Alexander Stigsen), but his release cycle is awesome. Just for you to know, he released:

    1.1.113 - March 9th
    1.1.114 - March 14th
    1.1.115 - March 20th
    1.1.116 - March 30th

    And yes, alot of new features are added, not just tiny fixes or anything.
    As a user, it gives you the feeling there's some hard work going on. Now I'm not saying you guys aren't working hard on Intype, but why don't we get to see any of that? If you for example implemented Project support, why don't release that just to give us some more information on the status of the project. It's still alpha I know that, but use that to your advantage. We can't complain if it's a bit buggy, it's alpha!

    With the passing of each day, E is making progress and thereby increasing it's lead on Intype. I know Intype is lighter and all that, as E automatically installs cygwin for example, but I don't care, as long as E gives me a good programming environment, and boy it does. I ofcourse realize I'm comparing an Alpha product to a Beta product, but face it you have to make Intype better than E in order to actually sell it right ? Don't take this as a flame or anything, I just wonder why E is is developping the way it is, and why Intype can't do the same thing. I just hope the next release will sport Tab support, Project support en Auto-indentation and perhaps matching brackets, which is the core of a good editor imho :)
    When I discovered Intype & E I always preffered Intype to E. I can't explain why, it just felt better and faster. Things change though, E's features easily tipped the scale in it's favor :/

    Anyways, enough for the (constructive, really) criticism :) I can assure that once Intype implements the features I listed above I will switch back :D
    • CommentAuthorBen
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
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    .Dani: one thing I don’t realy understand is that you state that the core of a good editor is multitab, project support, and auto-indentation…
    Your are not the only one who complain about intype not have those features,
    but for me I found it really more crucial to first have a search and replace (even without regexp) than having multitab and project support.
    At least that’s my opinion…

    Beside that, it is true, the dev is not as fast as E, but we can’t complain, I’m sure they are doing the best they can actualy.
    I also think that they are aware about their competitor from a long time now :-)

    The annoying thing, for me at least, is that we don’t have any update on the planning.
    We could understand delay for a reason or another,
    but having no news scares us that the project would fall into oblivion.

    Ben

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      CommentAuthorollu
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
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    "No news is good news" or was it the other way around ...
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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007
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    The other way around is… “good news is no news”? :P :))

    I agree with Ben, having no news makes us worry and fret (and again about the S&R :P its annoying to have to launch another app just to do S&R while I’m doing minor refactoring in Intype)... I don’t wanna have to use E for the rest of my life!!

    Perhaps because of that, some forum members seem to have moved on to better places already…

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      CommentAuthortstrokes
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007 edited
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    Idyllrain does this mean that you are moving on and to where?

    • CommentAuthorDarkRaver
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007 edited
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    Just have a look at the blog : Hvge is going to work full time on Intype as of june
    http://intype.info/blog/success-intype-on-linux/#comment-3054

    Sorry or the double post but that IS good news ;)

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      CommentAuthor.Dani
    • CommentTimeApr 4th 2007 edited
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    Ben

    Well it might be a bit exaggerated, but I honestly feel auto-indentation, multitab & (to lesser extend) project support are the core of a good editor (for me personally, that is). If I want to search and replace something I could simply use UltraEdit or whatever for a few seconds to accomplish that. However, auto-indentation is constantly used, so I can't just temporarily switch to another program for that. I always have multiple tabs open, so that's a must. I always use auto-indent, so that's a must. Project support, as I said, might not be all the way up there but it's very important to me as well. Search & replace is missed ofcourse, but can be quickly achieved with some other app (well, E has it built-in as well, and since I don't Intype right now I don't really run into problems like that tbh).
    Anyways, I won't continue to whine on about it, these were my (for now, at least :D) last complaints ;) Just pleeease keep us a bit more up-to-date about the project :) Thanks!

    @DarkRaver

    Wow you're right that's pretty big. Great news :)
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      CommentAuthoridyllrain
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
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    tstrokes: Idyllrain does this mean that you are moving on and to where?

    Nah… I’m still here (posting less as project deadlines approach…). I meant some of the other members who haven’t been logging on for quite some time. :)

    • CommentAuthorBrendonKoz
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007 edited
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    Sure… I get a little busy, set the blog’s feed to alert me to updates, and the only updates are announced in the forum instead. That just figures!

    I’m glad to see that progress was being made all the while (as opposed to my thoughts that things had stalled due to no news from the blog feed). Sorry I haven’t been around! I’ve been working on finishing up a couple projects at work, going through the stages of a partial (more than half) website overhaul and redesign; and trying to learn some more stuff during my free time.

    Anyway, hopefully I won’t be as much of a stranger as I have been in the past couple months. Sorry, guys! Glad to be back. ;) ...oh, and the updates look great! I have yet to try it out though — just got back.

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    Ok, I’ll try to explain to you all what is going on in Intype project. Currently we have frozen the 0.2.1 branch and started with huge updates in the editor and application to reach our milestones faster. This made Intype unusable for some time until we get it back to work.

    The main reason is that we have finished the roadmap. The current tasks for me is to revitalize and update the editing component to fullfil all our needs until 1.0, this is a huge task to accomplish and is the main reason for being so silent about the next release. Another big update is planned for application due to Juraj’s task with multi-documents and scripting support.

    Completing these tasks will move us to 0.2.9 milestone due to merge of many smaller tasks to bigger ones. Next already mentioned update in the release philosophy is to release unstable branches that will be available since we get current branch to working state. We will skip internal testing phase for the future, that is the main cause of the delays between public releases, and we found it much less effective in recent releases.

    Another big changes are planned in Juraj’s move to full-time development of Intype, and some other commercial negotiations with our employers to free our hands for Intype development. The development rate however haven’t slow down, there are many new updates to the whole application that are, however not visible to the public.

    I will post the new feature list that will be available in the unstable branch as long as we manage some other things around the project.

    • CommentAuthorWarlock-G
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
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    Well confirmed
    bq. ollu: “No news is good news”...

    :D

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      CommentAuthoryarden
    • CommentTimeApr 5th 2007
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    LOL

    martin: Great news. thanks!

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      CommentAuthordflock
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2007 edited
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    Excellent – more communication in future about what’s going on would be very useful.
    From the outside, a dead project with nothing going on and you guys working really hard – but not posting or updating the blog – looks exactly the same.

    Take the opportunity to promote yourselves and your hard work a bit more. Maybe schedule a little bit of time each day – even if it’s only 10 mins to write a tiny blog entry – to keep people up to date on what you’re doing.

    Little and often is much better than large but infrequent. This will really help to keep the community feeling involved, happy and growing – and to hopefully convert them to customers at a later date.

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      CommentAuthorFrederick
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2007
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    dflock:
    Take the opportunity to promote yourselves and your hard work a bit more. Maybe schedule a little bit of time each day – even if it’s only 10 mins to write a tiny blog entry – to keep people up to date on what you’re doing.

    This is a great idea… I really hope the devs can take just a couple of minutes every few days or so, for tiny updates along the way.

    Regardless of the communications, I’m very excited for the future, it seems like development will speed up considerably in the next few months.

    • CommentAuthorhurrycane
    • CommentTimeApr 12th 2007 edited
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    You`re last release was on 18 March now it`s 12 April ... i think we deserve just a little bit more of your work :) by now...
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      CommentAuthor.Dani
    • CommentTimeApr 12th 2007 edited
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    I think Martin just explained to use why we don't see any new releases, now didn't he? I think it's time for you to read his post again. Ofcourse we don't like this, but apparently something big awaits us! (not putting pressure on you Martin :D) Anways, we'll wait and see (and hope for the best, ofcourse).
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    Thanks to Thomas Bell, we will be updating actual development status on the blog each week (I hope). I’ve added one more feature to the editor to make it all done at once: the word wrapping. Currently it supports LTR as well as RTL wrapping and is quite fast. Thank you guys for staying with us. It’s really helpful.

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      CommentAuthoryarden
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2007
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    sounds great!

    what do you mean “LTR as well as RTL” intype is not rtl-able

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    Intype is not RTL-able, but is able to work with RTL text. The alignment of lines is always LTR, but this is going to change. There is planned a lot of testing and tuning for making Intype support RTL fully, but the rendering core is working with RTL, as well as word-wrap.

    • CommentAuthorDarkRaver
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2007
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    Hey Martin, glad to hear about you again ;)
    Can you just give us a clue on the next release date ? I know you’re all working hard on Intype core and that you plan to release the final version during summer but what about the 0.3.0 and unstable releases ?
    Can we expect to get them soon ?

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      CommentAuthordflock
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2007
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    Thanks Martin – sounds good. As you’ve planned out a provisional roadmap to one-point-oh, any chance you could copy and paste it into a blog entry? We promise we won’t hold you to it!

    Seriously – more communication and inclusiveness is always a good way to foster community.

    Thanks!

    :)